An Ulsterman Report | Michael Moore is Right!
Published by AndAnotherThing on March 8, 2011 in Opinions-
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Ulsterman agrees he has a hidden agenda. He is jealous of Michael Moore and what Michael Moore said in Wisconsin on March 5th was true!
Ulsterman spewed his bile over the truths outed by Michael Moore in his 30 minute speech in Wisconsin on March 5th. The central message Michael Moore got out was that America is not broke but that all its money had been amassed by a few families and that was wrong.
These select few have lied, cheated and stolen money from honest hard working Americans. Michael Moore wants to out the methods they have used and attempt to stop them doing it in the future. Is it right that 400 Americans has as much money as 155 million other Americans?
To bury Michael Moore’s message Ulsterman in typical style has questioned its validity on the grounds that Michael Moore is overweight and that he is a millionaire himself. This is the argument of a jealous idiot but it will be upheld by thousands who uphold the 400 because they have been manipulated to believe that the world should be unequal. Strange thing is that Ulsterman is rumoured to be rich and fat too! (Also Ulsterman is a smelly, bigot but that’s another story.)
Read Michael Moore’s speech yourself and make your own mind up. Click here to read the transcript
Image via Wikipedia Ulsterman fatter than Michael Moore and completely jealous of him
Very nice
AndAnotherThing, do you ever run out of twisted bile to spew? Man, your chronic dribble is getting redundant. Best to just sit back in your regular corner and resume what you are best at – drooling down your shirt.
A very genuine concern expressed in this post. Admirable!
I disagree. If I make more than you, does that mean you should get more a cut of my money or the government? I mean, it’s not like I stole it from anyone. If someone chooses to buy my products or services, is that not a fair exchange? No one forces you to buy from me or use my services. Whether I work at burger king, am a secretary, a lawyer or an industrialist who provides thousands of jobs. It’s the principle. We use to celebrate the success of individuals, but it seems that the country is beginning to envy successful people and call it unfair.
The 400 at the top create wealth, they don’t steal your money, unless the Republicans or Democrats protect them and bail them out. No one has more of a right to my money than myself, and the same applies to the top 400.
“A society that aims for equality first and freedom second, will achieve neither equality and freedom” – Milton Friedman.
Jeffrey Torres – unusual for anyone to disagree without throwing a few insults so respect for that.
Your example is straight forwards but how about if you did a bad job – like some of the bankers – and lost your company a lot of money. Would you expect to be kept on in your job and to be paid £millions? How about if you were selling drugs to addicts is that a fair exchange?
What about equality under the law? Should rich people be able to get away with crimes because they are rich? Should Jeffrey Epstein be allowed to abuse children?
PS Jeffrey Torres – If you make more than enough you should be giving it away or even spending it not hoarding it. Where is the sense in that?
No problem
If a company made a lot of money, but I mismanaged it and lost money, I take all the risk and ultimately I lose out, unless I buy a politician or the regulators. If a corporation does this though, that person should definitely be out of a job, depending on the type of mismanagement of course. With the financial crisis in the banks, corporations bought the stock brokers and paid them to make bad deals and inflate the market, I think it’s illegal, but I’m not sure. They should be imprisoned for doing that, real prison, not house arrest in a 500 acre estate. Unfortunately, corporations can buy politicians and regulators, so regulating them more won’t help. Look at the gulf oil spill, and how they cut deals with the safety regulators. Same thing happened here.
There is a big difference between mismanagement and fraud.
We should all be subject under the law of course, equally. But you don’t get equality if you favor one group over another or create separate laws for different races, businesses, etc. Not all rich people are evil, but everyone is greedy.
The function of a bank is to grant loans, not just to people, but industrialists and start up businessmen. If people do not save, then people will find it more difficult to get a loan and setup a factory or business. In fact, America has a dissaving rate of 5%. We consume and borrow much more than we save and it is crippling our ability to expand in creating actual wealth. Banks are incredibly in providing industries and businesses with capital. Without banks, our economy would decline. So, there is a very good reason to save. The Japanese have a 15% saving rate. Most other growing economies also have good savings rates, but we don’t, that’s the problem.
@Jeffrey Torres – but we aren’t all equal under the law which gives fat cats an advantage. The CEO of Royal Bank of Scotland is an example of someone who would have been fired under your system and there are many more. Banks are ripping us off – they follow the Louis XIV model: Gamble with other people’s money and losing is of no consequence but if they win keep the money.
Once upon a time simony laws in the west prevented banks from being formed… We are not all greedy…
You are making a blanket statement based upon the transgressions of the few. Of course there is wrong in the banks ripping people off, who would disagree? However, a bank is not an individual and the bank CEO is not personally liable for all of the banks questionable practices. The CEO and bank board take advantage of all legal opportunities afforded them. The personal success and earnings of the bank CEO should be rewarded on a job success scale and not his worthiness because of his personal status.
I agree with Jeffrey Torres that greed is a mighty motivator and because of this fact there will always be those who take advantage. To say that all “rich” however you may define the term, owe something to the poor is to leave the evaluation to whom? At what point do the rich and poor meet in the middle? Why is another allowed to evaluate my achievements and financial successes then decree I owe to one less able to achieve what I have? Where is this fair? In this situation what motivates those able to become achievers?
The bald truth is to begin at the beginning and note that at birth there is and will always be inequality. That is the way of the world regardless of personal beliefs this is a fact. Genetics will always set us apart one from another even if there were perfect programs to equalize the socioeconomic component. We are different and that is the luck of the draw. Just because I may or may not be brighter or have a more motivated personality does not mean I owe to someone who is less fortunate. Or by the same token, Michael Moore owes me nothing simply because he had the ability to create something people are willing to pay to view.
Most humans who have more are generous and willing to give to those in need. The problem is those who believe they or others have the right to force generosity upon anyone and define the terms of that generosity and the recipients of it as well. In our country that is not a dictated power.
@HolNoval
Thing is, I complain about selfish, greedy grasping people and in so doing remind myself not to become one – the transition seems easy and all decent people should be aware.
Another thing though. If I had children who were starving while all around the greedies were self indulging they’d have a problem with me. What would you do in that situation?
@AndAnother With starving children while there is self indulgence all around – unfortunately this is not uncommon. The answer however is not to create a program to care for the hungry that perpetuates the cycle of poverty. The effort should always be to find the willing generosity to feed the hungry and if possible treat the causative factor rather than the symptom of the root problem.
When Michael Moore gives all his millions to charity then I will listen to him. Which means he has to lay off his limo driver..right?
Let him ride around on a bicycle and give to the poor and then I will find him more believable with his class warfare rubbish.
Look up “hypocrite” and you’ll see Moore’s face under the definition.
WaterAnus (it\’s what we call AquaStar) is so accomplished when it comes to making boring comments. S/he/it is usually more aggressive but the comment above resembles other of its observations. It has confidence in its own abilities – a mistake which will catch up with it soon.
And another thing…
Again..off-topic, using childish name calling in the place of actual debate, and WRONG on who I am.
You and Michael Moore should be best buds…both of you are full of yourselves and take yourselves SO seriously
You’ve already identified yourself as an “office of people” so IT would more apply to you than me.
As I stated previously Michael Moore is an overly inflated ego who doesn’t even see the irony in his comments about the RICH much as you don’t the irony in your own childish silliness.
And another thing:
Skip the anemic attempts at humor/wit, (I’m guessing that’s what it is supposed to be). When you can’t get it above middle school grade level just leave well enough alone!
AquaStar aka WaterAnus – hypocrite and you do what you accuse us of.
BTW We don’t clog up the site. The articles are popular, simple as. A few right wing idiots cannot do anything about it – but it is sure good you try. Eff off WaterAnus – tee hee
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