Why is America Still in Iraq?
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Questioning America’s war and the lack of American protest to it.
What shocks about the war in Iraq; it is still going on.
Unlike Vietnam, there is no “iron curtain” keeping the public
ignorant of the facts. Iraq is an open blog. There can be no “spin”, no “alternative” explanation.
Whether one lives in Bankor or Bangkok what is happening on the ground in Iraq is not hidden. So why is the war still going on?
America has an “all volunteer” army. This is a misnomer. Before 9/11 many people joined the Reserves as a method to pay for
their University education. They expected to be weekend soldiers for a few years and enjoy the fruits of their education.
When the Towers were destroyed the adrenaline of revenge pushed thousands into uniform. The belief was that those who did this act would pay.
Afghanistan is one thing, Iraq is another. Iraq had as much involvement in 9/11 as shouting at the television effects the action on screen.
Maybe at first people were stupid. Maybe they confused Iraq with Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia or vaguely recalled they didn’t like Saddam Hussein. Maybe they believed this “Weapons of Mass Destruction” lie they were fed.
By 2003, it was obvious to even a dull mind that entering Iraq was a mistake.
Somewhere, the psyche of America stagnates in World War II, expecting the citizens of Paris to hail them as Liberators. Baghdad is not Bordeaux.
Let me post it here; the Islamic World Hates America. Hates. The world of jihad and crusaders never ended in the Islamic World. The belief that those who were not Muslim should be converted by the sword or killed did not go out with Richard II but has persisted to this very day.
Those who dispute this should view Pakistan, one of America’s
‘allies’ to see just how much Muslims living there hate America,
or study Egypt, where they danced in the street when the Towers came down; to comprehend the word; hate.
The West has created petro-billionaires who claim to be kings and princes. Who oppress their own people and blame the West. Education in these places is often hate based as copies of texts used in Saudi Arabia’s schools have attested, (exposed by the BBC).
Fighting a ground war in Iraq is a way to get killed. There are no friendlies, there are those who don’t have opportunity to kill Americans, those who are getting pay offs by Americans, and those who haven’t seen any Americans lately to kill.
If America spends ten years in Iraq all that will happen is that more Americans will die, or come back to the United States to commit suicide, (CBS revealed one hundred and twenty veterans a week).
Where are the protests?
Where are the Armies of the Night?
Where are the national strikes?
How have Americans become so disassociated that they do not demand the war end?
Each day it lasts creates new enemies, wastes more money, and costs more American lives. But let us stop and imagine “winning” this war. What does America get? Oil?
The problem with Oil is that it is not scarce but there are not enough refineries. Those who own oil refineries are the winners.
Iraq did not figure in oil production as there had been an embargo from the days of the first President Bush.
So here are the “volunteers”, who never imagined going to Iraq, being sent to Iraq, once, twice, three times, (unlike Vietnam where after a one year tour of duty, a draftee’s service was over), here is the price of oil shooting up to over $120 a barrel, before
toppling, ready to jump whenever the petro-millionaires need
some spare change, and here is the wastage of a trillion plus dollars, and climbing.
And what does winning look like?
The Iraqis will remain Muslims, and continue to hate America, happily killing each other until another Saddam arrives to stop it.
That America could have blundered into Vietnam can be chalked to ignorance. Ignorance of the people, the culture, the reality
of South East Asia.
What is the excuse for Iraq?
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Why, indeed? Your points are my points, all excellent. Where is the supposedly loyal opposition? Being much too loyal? The entire situation both sickens and angers me.
I wonder where are all those who marched in the street in the
60s and 70s to end the war in Vietnam. How is it possible for
a war like this to go on and on with no end in sight, with no winning, and people don’t just pull the plug?
It breaks my heart to know all of these naive ignorant people going and killing themselves in Iraq for no reason but to increase the size of the Bush family’s wallet…
This is worse than Vietnam. None of the other Presidents
or their cabinet members profitted. Unlike Bush, Rumsfeld
and the others who retire with millions of dollars of blood
money.
I think the ganja has gone to your head. As you sit there in Jamaica judging the events that surround America’s presence in Iraq remember this. (See “More articles by A.Fool” above) While we are the largest coalition force in the Iraq conflict, we are but one of many. Your ignorance in comparing Vietnam to Iraq also puzzles me. I am not sure you understand the difference in the two different wars, and what caused them. Your last paragraph was particularly… well ummm… ha. Not all Muslims are filled with hate for America. and America isnt the only target in the Islamic extremest sights. How many other countries have felt the pain of terrorist attacks from the same cowards? We did nothing to start the first 9/11 and we are not going to sit here and wait on the next one.
It will be interesting to see if you allow this comment to stay since you took the other one off.
I never took down any comment.
There are five comments.
This makes the sixth.
America was able to force its allies, i.e. Spain,
Poland, etc to send forces. So one country sends a
whole 300 people, just to keep on America’s good side.
Muslims are filled with hate for America.
Some hide it better. I think it would be very painful
for you to know the joy and street dancing that went
on from Egypt to Saudi to Jordan to Iran when the two
towers were hit.
There was a ‘chain text’ that was sent from cell
phones cheering it. So don’t fool yourself.
Muslims hate Americans.
The point of Iraq is the same as a rabbit garden.
Put the Americans in Iraq to be killed so the
terrorists can save the air fare.
no ally is forced to do anything, many of our allies are not even getting involved. Are you just making up your own facts?
I have seen the street dancing celebrations regarding the 9/11 attacks, and whose ignorance is that?
We can not run home with our tails between our legs because a group of radical Muslims hate us and like to see people they don’t like murdered.
Whether we were right or wrong, leaving now would be a sign of complete incompetence, lack of diligence, weakness, and a sure sign that we have given up on ourselves and Iraq.
I know many Muslims from Egypt and Iran who live here in America. They are peace loving Muslims who constantly speak out against terrorism. So to say that ALL Muslims hate America is ignorant.
And if it is the case that so many of the Extreme Islamic factions hate American’s and want to see us dead and our country destroyed, what makes them any different from Hitler trying to Kill the Jews?
No one complains about our involvement in that war? Of course not. But America gets attacked and defends itself and you say we need to mind our own business.
Spain had a force, and withdrew. Poland is thinking of withdrawing. Another group sent 300 folks and they are also thinking of withdrawing. Simply put, they aren’t much interested in dying in Iraq.
You’ve seen the street dancing. Some of it was in countries America sends money to…for example, Pakistan, Egypt, and that bastion of freedom, Saudi Arabia.
For people to behave like that in public, suffer no reprecussions suggests they are pretty much displaying an acceptable attitude.
America can stay in Iraq until, like Vietnam you’re forced out. Maybe the Gov. in America will end the occupation and Americans will come home. Maybe they’ll all vote in an old war dog like McCain and you’ll see desertions move from 300 a week, as reported by CBS, and American station, to thousands.
You say leaving now would be a sign of incompetence. Well, how long would you continue in something that was a failure? You realise that the Iraqis are waiting for the day America leaves so they can kill each other?
Sure, many Muslims go to America where they can do what they please and make money, and send it home, and say all the right things.
That only means they know how to get over
I am all for our forces coming home. As you say, they do not serve one term of service in Iraq. They continue to be sent back.I have a grandson there now who is on his second tour. He was to finish his present tour in May, but it has already been extended to August. Another grandson finished one tour and is now in Texas. I belive our president was wrong to start this war,and I would like to see him admit it, and bring our troops home. There will be civil war when we leave regardless of how long our forces are there, or how many of our boys die, so why not get out now, and save our children’s lives?
Bush made a serious error and refuses to admit it. There’s
no winning in Iraq. There was no point to any incursion. I can
understand Afganistan.
What shocks me is that here is all the information, one can actually read blogs made by people in Iraq, and know exactly
what is going on. The Internet makes it very clear. Yet, the
people do not rise up and stop the war.
Now more ‘Allies’ are leaving; Italy, Australia, there will soon
just be America and a reducing English presence. Because other
countries realise there is no winning.
Ruby, I pray your grandsons come home safely.
Active military here and wondering the same things. As my husband told me, “I fight for them to have the freedom to protest, so let them protest.” We don’t make the decisions, the politicians do and we’re at their mercy.
Hopefully, John McCain won’t win, and reintroduce the draft so that
two million soldiers can be sent to Iraq to die. Hopefully Obama
will win, and bring the troops home.
Further, Pakistan is probably a greater threat as it is clear that
nuclear weapons in the hands of Islamists is WWIII
Other resources have been known of and suppressed by
those who make billions off of the Oil Industry. There
were electric cars, hydrogen cars, and of course
ethanol ones all through the past century.
Right now Oil is where the money is, so any way to
get it is ‘worth’ it to those who exploit it.
Afganistan has nothing, never did, never will.
For hundreds of years foolish nations have sought
to invade it or civilise it, to no avail.
Hence, Afganistan where terrorists enjoy life is
virtually ignored for the far more lucrative oil
fields of Iraq.
America should have never gone in, should get out
yesterday. Hopefully, Obama will win, and the
troops will come home, and the tensions be tuned
down, so that Iran, if not an ally is not an enemy,
and whatever Master Plan exists for Afganistan will
be completed.
Will Mr. Fool, I can tell you never been to any of these countries that we’re at war with and never seen their desprite cries for help from Saddam and the insurgents who come from Iran and Syria. These Radicals and not “Muslims” will never stop attacking us,so we most bring the fight to them. Not all Muslims hate us. In April 2003, A female Iraqi sacerficed herself to show the location of a Sniper in a terrorist camp in Iraq. She saved Marines that day and you tell me if thats hate?
Try to remember, America went into Iraq because of ‘Weapons of Mass
Destruction’ not to free anyone. The world agrees, delivering Americans to Muslims makes crossing the Atlantic unnecessary.
You may need to keep your spirits up so that you’re willing to die for people who can’t wait for you to leave so they can go back to
killing each other.
Hopefully, Barack Obama will end the Iraq war.
As a person who DOES NOT LIVE IN AMERICA and who has a large number
of friends from the Gulf; including Palestinians, Lebanese, Jordanian, Syrian;
I can tell you, the gleeful text messages they received on 9/11 ..the same way
you might receive an ad from your provider, the joyful emails that splashed all
over the net, proves even to a simple mind, that people hate America.
Pakistan is one of the most anti-American nations in the world. Most citizens
support al qaeda. One might ponder that America never ‘did anything’ to Pakistanis save support Musharaf.
What you need to find Sami is a nice crowd of Muslims … mosque going Muslims…and learn for yourself.
So, Obama lied! What now! Troops r still in Iraq!
Still in Iraq, more going to Afganistan…is Richard Nixon still President?
i guess americans are just to lazy and distracted by media and all the shit they spend money on.
as long as they have a house, nice car and food on the table, they just dont give a shit
I always felt that it was a way to get rid of persons who would otherwise be unemployed. Put them in the Army, get them well programmed, when they come back, into the cop force.
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