The World’s Largest Debts: How Severe is The American Debt? Does It Matter?
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America are being joined by country after country, all announcing details of very public struggles with their very public debts. How does the rest of the world’s debts compare to the US? Is this fiscal Armageddon?
The public debt of the United States of America has passed 14.6 Trillion dollars. This figure has risen from 8.6 trillion in 2010 – from one inconceivably huge amount of money, to an even more inconceivably huge one in less than a year. I was asked which countries have more debt than the USA, surely the world’s recent sole-superpower can’t have the largest debt in the world?
Total Debt
It’s a tricky question, with a not altogether easy answer. America, looking at the sheer scale of the debt do rank highly. The sheer scale of the country’s debt is only really comparable to Japan – fired by their own recession in the 90’s to $12.3 trillion as of the 2010 figures. There’s a 10 trillion gap between these two countries and the next 3 most indebted countries, with the European triptych of France, Germany and Italy each with between 2 and 3 trillion dollars debt.

These numbers are enormous, record-breaking, no doubt, and almost completely meaningless.
The Quantity of GDP
The hysteria surrounding these headline grabbing numbers is often without much context. For instance, a man earning $15k p.a. owing the $5/The cost of a beer to a friend in a bar is not the same as owing that 5000 dollars he borrowed. Equally, that $5000 would mean next nothing to Rupert Murdoch, with his $7.6 billion net worth. These debts are more useful when thought of as a percentage of a countries gross domestic product, contextualising the debt both internationally and internally.

Putting the American debt into this context (considering that many of figures above are based on data released in 2010 and could possibly have gotten worse) makes it seem not as catastrophic as it may have done than by just total liability. While Japan is an extreme case and Zimbabwe and Lebanon special cases, the likes of Italy and Germany (Public debt 78.8% of GDP) have been lauded as countries dealing well with the current economic climate.
It’s worth noting that even during the 1997-2006 period of relative prosperity, Germany had a public debt of 64% and USA had an average public-sector debt of 61%. In the period following World War Two the UK Public debt was 2.7 times GDP – The World didn’t end, not even the country ended – they were surmounted not by drastic methods by simple growth and simple inflation.
The Debt Delusion
It seems that this current self-flagellating obsession with debt is something of a red herring. While the size of the national debts is unprecedented the scale is not, and these black marks against a countries financial capability may not be as terminal as is made out. Mehdi Hasan wrote about the panic about debt in the UK during August 2009 under significantly less severe circumstances, the observations and quotations hold. Even the credit agencies ratings have little to no effect, nor do they have much integrity under scrutiny.
Rather than thinking of these debts as being owed to some lunatic International-loan-shark who may demand the entire sum at any moment, these debts function more as a loan or a mortgage taken out on one’s first house – There’s the eventual repayment and the interest payments. These debts are not owed to a single place, with a single repayment on a single date – they are spread over sources, over payments, over time making them a lot more easy to manage than many people’s mortgages.
The debt may seem to be ever growing, but the debt exists for a reason and will reduce naturally. The point of debt taken out of by a nation’s government is to put it into their people, spending money putting them into productive and satisfying work at a time when the global economy fell into recession. These debts are largely investments into a countries economic future, investments into their people and their long-term prosperity. The return may not be now, or even soon, but it will come – And as English historian Lord Macauley said of the UK’s debt: “At every stage in the growth of that debt it has been seriously asserted by wise men that bankruptcy and ruin were at hand. Yet still the debt kept on growing; and still bankruptcy and ruin were as remote as ever.”
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Four Countries With More Debt Than America
The Debt Delusion
The Three Stooges Of Politics
Note: Tables largely compiled using 2010 data available from the CIA world fact-book. American data as of July 2011.
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When governments are in debt what kind of role model are they for ordinary citizens, but it is the people who get “punished” for their bad decisions and bad money management by higher taxes. Not fair really.
It’s not necessarily a bad decision or bad money management. In fact it’s not even IN debt, merely A debt. In debt would be more akin to – overdrawn. These governments haven’t run out of money.
Like I tried to say, it’s akin to a large mortgage on the countries industry itself. A way of getting capital to fund a future investment.
You may not agree with the practice but this is how big business and big capitalism work. I may not either, but it does lead to actual investment in the people with near certainty of profit due to things like inflation – When oligarchs or business men buy companies or even English football clubs they finance it by essentially mortgaging the entity, effectively putting it into debt by the amount of capital. It’s far better practice than that.
And as for taxes: If they didn’t do this then taxes would be much higher, or infrastructure/services/employment/law and order/society would be much worse. Debts much larger have been accumulated simply in order to kill other human beings in a war.
Good article. It would be even better if you look at not the numbers, which in and of themselves are meaningless, but the decisions and situation behind the numbers. U.S. trade deficit is huge meaning the U.S. imports more than it exports. This also means that most of what Americans buy is produced by workers in other countries who pay taxes to their own governments. Using China as an example, every item an American buys at Wal-mart ads to the earnings of the average Chinese worker. But for an American to buy that item, they have been and continue to borrow either on their credit card or refinancing of their mortgage. This is reflected in a steep decline of American jobs and the ability of the United States to repay any debt. As I have written about in one of my previous articles, debt is only good if the money is put to productive use. In the U.S. case money is not being used to create jobs but to avoid a collapse of the economy and banking system as a result of an industrial economy which has been on the decline for decades. The bottom line is that every American, should be concerned…very concerned. You need to get a President in power right away who knows how to build an economy from the bottom up. Someone who understands small business, manufacturing and international competition.
My friend, you should watch a youtube video that I recommend. This youtube video is a guy who used to wrestle in the WWE, who is interest is on business and politics, now. Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOfwyh7Jx34
Good points Baldo. Though I believe the ability to repay any debt isn’t really in much doubt barring a catastophe – the GDP is robust enough – creating actual industry is imperative for all countries, not just America.
I admit I’m no real expert in what occurred with the debt in America, but it seems pretty analogous to here in Britain, with bailed out banks a deficit and high unemployment. I guess it was more of a “stop and think, is the number alone THAT bad?” article.
But as somebody who’s unemployed with a degree (proper one) the last thing I want is the government to stop investing in the economy because of an unremarkable debt and a deficit. It won’t help unemployment. It won’t help cover the deficit if you stop making money from anything.
Nice topic .Well written and thankx for sharing.
Thanks for the comment aroosa!
Thanks for the Vid of JBL, I found it pretty interesting. The man knows money.
The delusion baloon can be eliminated not by lowering the taxes but by investing in quality people and managment. Quality production will lead to higher demand and when the supply responds adequately to the demands, the deficit will decrease. Respectively, this will gradually lead to lower debt and a higher GDP. But it takes balls and determination to make the right decision, especially in the moment of crisis. Because, in my humble opinion, the US are not that far away from the 1930’s Great Depression.
I’d say I’m a proud to be an american but that just made that statement go out the window. WOW… Great post definitely!
And that’s exactly the thing, its a time to invest. The Great Depression and the periods after the wars were not a time for austerity, and neither is this.
You have no need to be less proud really. I wouldn’t be, but then I am British, and would always replace pride with self deprecation. You’re WORLD CHAMPIONS (of total public debt)
Thanks for the comments.
PS. Save The NHS
And the poor.
This is seriously the best article I’ve seen so far on Triond! Extremely usefull, nice use of sources and best of all, very smooth to read!
Wow, thanks a lot Nali! So glad you found it smooth and useful!
Very well put. Numbers are meaningless without context.
great post
The United States has so much debt. I’m not surprised about the debt that the U.S. has because we all know the U.S. loves to spend and spend and spend some more.